So sad especially when most people who actually "achieve" this don't make it last more than 5 min. Pleasure is an end in itself, and the moment we frame orgasm as a goal we kind of kill the full potential of orgasm. As I learn more and more about my body and move out of the clitoris, I manage to have multiple long orgasms in different parts of my yoni in every good interaction, but that only happens because I don't have that as a goal. If I would only do sex because of that, I wouldn't manage to get to this stage. And yes, sometimes I have no orgasm, but a very pleasurable and intimate experience nonetheless. When we let any external norm voice dictate what we personally are going after, we are doomed.